Thread:Unity29/@comment-5670835-20150906184157/@comment-30185470-20150908014052

Anon, my point is if anyone would like to help me fulfil these demands, be my guest. It's okay if no one wants to help me. It's not like I have no where else to go and that if some bad users don't leave, that would mean they officially invaded my only online homeplace, convincing me to feel it's not a safe place, causing me to leave. Who will stay? Who will go? Me or the bad users? I think it's clear I'm more important than the bad users. I've done a lot for this community. I've done more in a day than they have in a year! I deserve to stay here because I've actually done something and also, it's the only online home I have; I have nowhere else to go. The bad users should be the ones to leave! They aren't here to be TK fans. They're only here to annoy me and others because they don't know how to deal with their personal issues and they have to take their anger out on the innocent (me and others). They've been given one too many chances. Let me be clear: I do believe in redemption, I really do, however, I also believe there HAS to be a limit. If you keep blocking the bad people and you give them so many chances, what will other people think? I'll tell you: Here's a wiki that blocks criminals, but gives them chances, which causes them to do what got them banned in the first place. There's a reason the life-sentence exists: So we don't run in a cycle forever. You can't give a criminal so many chances. They can't learn to change that way and they'll take advantage of you. Only way they'll learn is either apologize for all they did and leave for good or they get banned forever, along with all the aliases they go by. Surely they'll realized they were blocked for a reason, but hey, they're criminals. I don't expect them to suddenly change and make me forget about the past. For criminals, once they commit the crime, it's too late to regain my respect towards them. Depending on how much trouble they caused, I can be reasonable on how they can gain my respect back. If they caused trouble for a few days, all it takes is making a new account and staying good for good on that one. If it's a few weeks, they need to make a new account and constantly be helping the community. If it's a month, they shouldn't be here for one to two weeks and after that time is over, they may come back, but for the remaining time of the month, they need to be seen nice for every single second. However, if it's more than a month, this is where I have to draw the line. If bad users have honestly caused trouble for a few months or even more than a year and there's proof to show all that, there's absolutely no way I can forgive them. The only choice they have to say sorry is leaving forever. The reason why I'm not saying leave for the amount of time they caused trouble for because that's a terrible idea? If they come back after that punishment, what's to stop them from troubling again? You'd let them in again then BAM!, you have the same problem again! So really, the ONLY way a bad user can be forgiven if they caused trouble for months or years is by having absolutely no connection to this community whatsoever. If they aren't here to be nice, help the community, have no interest in what the wiki is about, and not show any sympathy when a user is in emotional pain, that plus the "leave forever" thing really encourages the reason of why they shouldn't be here at all. Ultimately, my point is I should stay and the bad users that don't want to apologize for all the wrong they done should be featured on "Beyond Scared Straight" just to make them change and leave forever.

Honestly, if I was a leader of a wiki I made, here's how the ban system would work. I'd use the "Three Strikes and You're Out!" concept. Users get three chances to stay on the wiki. If they do something terrible, that's a strike. They get two more chances to redeem themselves. If they screw those chances up, I don't care whether how big or small the trouble they made was, they're out, which means they're banned for good. I'm not going to honestly keep giving them chances. People will never learn to change that way. I can make exceptions if you're a friend. However, if I don't know this user and it's known that they're known for causing trouble on multiple wikis and got globalled and choose to come to come to the wiki, that's an automatic strike. I'm not going to give known criminals throughout what I like to call the "Wikinet" a clean record. Those who have known to show no trouble can start good. I'm not going to give one chance and have it be over like that. I believe all it takes for a user to be good is three chances, and if they screw all up, I have to stop there. If they make socks, the punishment will get worse. I will not tolerate users who deserve to be banned and try to get away from it by making alternate accounts because they don't know how to live the honest life. The point is either you're going to help the world or act like a complete jerk; be nice or be mean. If you're nice, good, this may be the start of a good communication, no matter how weird of the fact being that I can just trust you without having any thoughts on the idea if you're telling me the truth about yourself. If you're going to be mean, go ahead, act terrible towards the innocent, that'll earn you a strike. I'll be watching you and if you continue, don't think you'll be getting away because once you get three strikes, you're out. Like I said before, there is redemption, but there will be a limit. There would be some exceptions, but those are complications I'd discuss later.